"Well, I, I've been working out now for primarily, especially when I was in the industry for about, a good 10 years, and it's, it's really funny how I got into it, uh, not a lot of people know this, but uhmm, I was actually really skinny uh, growing up as a, as a kid, and uh, I was about 20 years old and I was in love with this woman, and uh, she'd actually broken up with me for a bodybuilder, and for whatever reason, I guess ego or uh, self-esteem, I immediately found myself in the gym, and at the time I had long hair, leather jacket, a rock-and-roller, and uh, pretty soon that, that began, as soon as I hit the weights, my body just began to react, and the hair got cut, and the uh, body got shaved, and my body began to react very well to the weights, and unbeknownst to me I had genetically gifted symmetry, and uh, from there I went into, uh, few competitions uh, nothing on a national level, and uhmm, but I, I, I love bodybuilding, it's just something that I, I fell into, and that's the reason why I fell into it."
